"You could ask Xu Changfeng from the Xuanjian Sect. Back then, he visited me three times at my humble abode to seek advice on martial arts. I merely gave him some pointers, and he found them immensely helpful, leading to his achievements today.",Before, the two people I mentioned, whether it was Xu Changfeng or Dongfang Su, these weirdos didn't seem afraid at all.,Could it be that this odd fellow suffered a loss at the hands of Old Master Shen back then。